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That office bullshit: Part Two

"Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle." - Napoleon Hill
I started a short series of posts about my experiences in workplaces and, more specifically, experiences revolving around some of the less productive and valued behaviours; the red flags so to speak. This is part two.
No way forward and stunted growth
It's common for companies to talk about and offer the warm and fuzzies; family culture, team events, kitchen facilities and so on...but for most people those things are incidentals; most are looking for much more and it's not necessarily pay-related.
We all like quality coffee and tea facilities, a refrigerator stocked with Voss water, a bowl of fresh fruit and today-baked pastries right? But what about training, promotion, career development, job-security, support to help growth and development, job satisfaction and other such things? Yes, we like them too.
For a person looking to work their way upwards, increase income and opportunity, have longevity and happiness in the workplace it's those things that matter more than a chocolate chip cookie now and then...or should matter more than a cookie or Voss water.
A company that doesn't offer these things, and back up the offer with action, is self-limiting in many ways; not least of which is the fact they will not attract and retain the right (or good) people which will hold the company back and possibly put its future in jeopardy. Having the wrong people means everyone has to work harder and when they don't the business suffers, the culture suffers and people leave. Interestingly, I've found that the organisations offering and delivering those important elements also tend to nail the warm and fuzzies I mentioned as well.
What do you think, any comments and remarks, experiences of your own?
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23 commentsI think it's hard in general these days. It feels kind of horrible to say but in my experience, the talent coming into the job market just isn't that great. Maybe it's just the sector I am in.
I am out of the game and have been for a few years now. However I keep my ear to things. I am hearing the same thing on my end as well. It is not so much about skill level either. It is a lack of motivation. Lack of critical thinking. Many want stuff spoon fed to them and won't dig in to find solutions themselves.
On the other end of the beam, I am hearing companies are not investing in those things mentioned in this post either. This doesn't lead one to want to put much effort into the job to be honest.
It's a generalisation, however it's accurate a lot of the time. Skills and motivation are diminished (diminishing) and that bodes ill for everyone.
It could be that only the negative is sounding through on places like LinkedIn and so forth. I know my youngest is trying his damndest to learn whatever he can, about as much as he can. I have told him to try and specialize a little bit. But he is too curious right now. I love that about him. Hoping when he finishes school here soon that he can find something.
There's good people, good kids out there, (I say kids due to my age and people below the age of 30 are kids to me), but the problem is they're too few. Generally the younger people just don't cut it. My organisation recruits for specialist fields where training only goes so far and real-world experience is a large element and so many fall way short; the older battle-scarred guys and gals like myself are left taking up the considerable slack left by lesser operators.
I'm sure your lad has a pretty good influence in you and that he has the right attitudes; that goes a long way and curiosity is good as well. I also agree with your idea of a specialist field.
Regretfully, mine is stubborn like his father. He insists on going his own way and doing things his way. I can only advise him and let him learn as he goes I guess. just like my stubborn ass did.
Well, it could prove a boon, time will tell. If he has to learn lessons the hard way it could help him gather the "experience" in life he needs to guide himself the appropriate way. It can be a bad thing, but a good thing as well.
I can see that. It worked out for me. I just hate to see him take such a bumpy road. My stubbornness resulted in lots of push-ups and flutter kicks. He doesn't have to worry about that, but the civilian kick in the balls hurts worse sometimes.
It's a whole new world out there I think!
It's not horrible, it's a fact and there's nothing wrong with stating the facts...although political correctness seems dedicated to stamping out the practice of speaking truthfully about the facts.
I don't even know what Voss water is or why people care about it x_x
I think my work pretty much has everything but promotion (and by extension with how they want to do "promotions" lately I'm not sure about job security either).
it also doesn't have "enough" hours but that can't be helped given how restricted the time and space we have to operate is
It's wanky bottled water that wankers think is better than other water.
I can say we have none of this, no free coffee, tea, pastries... No events for families, just one dinner per year where you CAN'T bring the family...
But no courses of formation either to keep up with technologies and stuff, like it's up to you learn and improve if you want to, in your own free time
However I know there are companies offering both courses and goodies in the work place... I think these are nice perks for a workplace, make the employees feel cared
That sounds shit.
Although, I've worked at places where there's been little in the way of perks like that and I think many workplaces are that way inclined as they think it saves money. Losing staff to better workplaces isn't good for stability and the general business though so I question that logic.
My workplace has weekly BBQ's or bacon and egg muffin breakfasts for whomever is on-site, has tea and coffee facilities and even stocks a fridge with drinks each week and they actually ask each worker what their favorite drink is (non-alcoholic) - it's never empty. Also, towards the end of the day it's likely a beer or two is handed around when it's appropriate of course.; this could happen daily, once a week or fortnight, it's just whenever it's appropriate.
Besides that, it's a good place to work generally, but it's these little things that help.
Now, if the rest of the conditions and other things I mention in this post were not present, none of those things would be enough to retain good people.
Losing staff actually costs more than not give the perks since a new personnel need to be taught on the work, etc... But some companies are just blind on that
Now that's some nice pampering from the company, makes you feel that they care for the employees and also you are more inclined to put effort, it's a positive circle, everyone benefits from that
They do it pretty well for us and I've no complaints; as you know, when I travel for work I'm well catered for also. It's a pretty good gig.
For expressing my opinion, I was never promoted to a top managerial position.
But so are those who were willing to change their minds...
Canceling trainings, seminars and stopping the growth of wages was a move by which the top management once tried to reduce costs.
Before that, rather than depriving their director's fleet of top car models (which I have said several times and was therefore exposed to criticism from some of them 😀).
The question is, did the company provide me with the knowledge I had when I was employed?
It's not.
And therefore, if the company does not have a vision, training its personnel to obtain even better experts, I accept to eat an apple or a pear, drink juice or water that it provides, and organize myself for the seminars, presentations and trainings that I think I need, to perform my work in this company.
Or in another?
Because, if the company I work for will not appreciate the knowledge I have (and I acquired it myself), maybe another one, which needs trained staff, will appreciate it.
Have you ever considered leaving for a better opportunity?
I didn't.
The conditions and the environment in which I work suit me.
I am in an expert position and the salary is excellent.
If I were to decide to leave, it would only be to open a private business, but it seems to me that without connections in politics, there is no possibility of advancement in private business in the country where I live.
Or if I get fired at some point 😀
I am working on myself and improving my knowledge, and even if they offered me a top management position, the question is whether I would accept it🤔
And there is a lot of politics, which I don't think I'm made for (and which I don't want to deal with).
Office politics...there's always that. People are such nutbags.
I will certainly go and go again to a place, shop or business where the treatment is good, where I feel at ease, as well as offering good products in terms of value for money. I think that the same reflection applies to every person, if we do not put effort into ourselves and only into things, we will not go very far and we will decline, just like a company or business.
Here I see companies that offer that kind of thing, improvements and making employees feel good, but there are not many of them. In Latin countries... you won't see that.
The problem with companies and businesses is that they're operated by people and therefore subject to the idiocy that seems intrinsic to the human race.
Well said... and there are many idiots... too many!